FS Change Time December 14, 2008 - December 12 version FS 2008
Times FS 121208
Saturday, December 13, 2008
Monday, December 8, 2008
How Long Until Anorexics Start Losing Weight
Change Time December 14, 2008
resubmission times of rail services that will come into force on 14 December 2008 on the line I-Bs, and Mi-Mi-BG Cr Trevor road.
This is the latest version currently available: The Times will vary slightly in each case, whether as a result of the latest additions requested by the Region of the FS group at its meeting on 28.11.2008.
complete schedules will be available on the website and www.ferroviedellostato.it www.trasporti.regione.lombardia.it by December 14.
Milan Brescia
Milan Bergamo
Treviglio Cremona
resubmission times of rail services that will come into force on 14 December 2008 on the line I-Bs, and Mi-Mi-BG Cr Trevor road.
This is the latest version currently available: The Times will vary slightly in each case, whether as a result of the latest additions requested by the Region of the FS group at its meeting on 28.11.2008.
complete schedules will be available on the website and www.ferroviedellostato.it www.trasporti.regione.lombardia.it by December 14.
Milan Brescia
Milan Bergamo
Treviglio Cremona
Monday, September 22, 2008
Neck Lump Nasal Polyps
Happening in Central ... What Just
Shortly after 16 I come to the ticket office Milan's central station, the line is long, I lose my train of 16.15. (R2105 for Verona)
When it's my turn to present a valid ticket purchased online and for Eurostar departing at 18.55 and ask to replace it with one applicable for the first available train to Brescia. I was given a ticket for a train that leaves at around 18:05 (IC Plus 633) are puzzled what about the trains departing at 16:55, 17:05 and 17:15?
I note that I asked the first available train to Brescia, and before that of 18.05 there are three. I is placed on those trains that there is no place to sit, I would have done the entire trip standing .
Now I wonder what strange mechanism mental conductors do believe that a traveler prefers to stand almost two hours and then sit in the train station, rather than making a short trip from there to an hour even with the ' possibility of not finding the place?
I took the train at 16:55 and due to the fact that someone has given up his race, I even run.
letter signed
Shortly after 16 I come to the ticket office Milan's central station, the line is long, I lose my train of 16.15. (R2105 for Verona)
When it's my turn to present a valid ticket purchased online and for Eurostar departing at 18.55 and ask to replace it with one applicable for the first available train to Brescia. I was given a ticket for a train that leaves at around 18:05 (IC Plus 633) are puzzled what about the trains departing at 16:55, 17:05 and 17:15?
I note that I asked the first available train to Brescia, and before that of 18.05 there are three. I is placed on those trains that there is no place to sit, I would have done the entire trip standing .
Now I wonder what strange mechanism mental conductors do believe that a traveler prefers to stand almost two hours and then sit in the train station, rather than making a short trip from there to an hour even with the ' possibility of not finding the place?
I took the train at 16:55 and due to the fact that someone has given up his race, I even run.
letter signed
Friday, September 19, 2008
Win 7 Ati Radeon 9000 Drivers
Lambrate but also in Central, from protests to requests
----- Original Message ----- From
: barber ......
Commuters Brescia agree with the request made by Mr. Goffetti on behalf of commuters Bergamaschi Trenitalia to request a bonus as compensation for inconvenience caused as a result of the blockade on the movement of trains. The Lombardy Region has to do its part by not increasing the rates for the whole year 2009. Greetings
Luigi Barbieri " inorario" brescia
----- Original Message -----
by: Private
Brescia, September 18
L 'section
COMMUTERS ASSOCIATION Brescia
is queued with the request made by the other committees,
not solve the chronic problem of poor service (even last night we were departure delays of more than 30 minutes)
but it could give a signal of discontinuity with the past
Greetings
Paul Streit
Message ----- ----- Original
From: Fabrizio Pandini
The Committee commuters Morecambe-Bariano agree with the request of sig.Goffetti.
showed that even yesterday, at least in the range from 17 to 18, my fellow commuters have reported heavy distress on the line.
Greetings
Fabrizio Pandini
----- Original Message ----- From
: Ghilardi Adele
The Committee commuters Romano-Chiari-Rovato fully agrees with the request of sig.Goffetti.
adele Ghilardi
Committee commuters Roman-clear-Rovato
(... we have the tracks but lack the means ..)
http://pendolari-romano-chiari-rovato.blogspot.com
-----
Original Message ----- From: Dante Goffetti
Posted: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:21
A: Moretti Massimo; Pianezze Tiziana; Fiorenzo Martini, VRL; Domenico Colombo raffaele.cattaneo @ regione.lombardia.it
Cc: Commuter Casalpusterlengo; binariomorto; Casalpusterlengo Commuters Association, Roberto Vitali, drawing Eco di Bergamo; presadiretta; commuters Lombardy, Il Giornale di Bergamo, Giorgio Daho; federconsumatori@infinito.it, Ezio Locatelli; DNews (stem); Daniele Belotti, Corriere Lombardo, Claudio Antonelli, Cesare Zapperi; catani5@virgilio.it; Beppe Benigni; Assoutenti; antonella Sbernini; Reuters - Manfredi, Anna Gandolfi, Alessandro Borelli; ACU; marcellosaponaro.it; V Committee; fabiana.tinaglia; commuters Bergamaschi; regionali_in_treno@regione.lombardia.it; rapclientela.lom @ trenitalia.it; Ghilardi Adele
Subject: Lambrate disaster but also in Central, from protests to requests
Gent. ing. Martini, gent. dr. Cattaneo, the disaster of last night Lambrate involved says the Courier- della Sera-70 trains, or about 70 000 commuters. We have also been delays which have reached the 2 hours and 30 'in conditions of hardship and, often, of real physical suffering. We are tired of excuses to leave the time they find. Instead, we ask for a refund symbolic certainly not compensate the lost time of life but which, however, shows that Trenitalia is sincerely sorry for causing inconvenience to the above-mentioned "friendly customers" Therefore, we ask them for all railway lines affected by the disaster last night's shooting automatically on subscriptions bonus in December.
Sure you want to seriously consider this request, pro bono pacis Best regards
----------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------
Dante Goffetti Committee, commuters Bergamaschi
----- Original Message ----- From
: barber ......
Commuters Brescia agree with the request made by Mr. Goffetti on behalf of commuters Bergamaschi Trenitalia to request a bonus as compensation for inconvenience caused as a result of the blockade on the movement of trains. The Lombardy Region has to do its part by not increasing the rates for the whole year 2009. Greetings
Luigi Barbieri " inorario" brescia
----- Original Message -----
by: Private
Brescia, September 18
L 'section
COMMUTERS ASSOCIATION Brescia
is queued with the request made by the other committees,
not solve the chronic problem of poor service (even last night we were departure delays of more than 30 minutes)
but it could give a signal of discontinuity with the past
Greetings
Paul Streit
Message ----- ----- Original
From: Fabrizio Pandini
The Committee commuters Morecambe-Bariano agree with the request of sig.Goffetti.
showed that even yesterday, at least in the range from 17 to 18, my fellow commuters have reported heavy distress on the line.
Greetings
Fabrizio Pandini
----- Original Message ----- From
: Ghilardi Adele
The Committee commuters Romano-Chiari-Rovato fully agrees with the request of sig.Goffetti.
adele Ghilardi
Committee commuters Roman-clear-Rovato
(... we have the tracks but lack the means ..)
http://pendolari-romano-chiari-rovato.blogspot.com
-----
Original Message ----- From: Dante Goffetti
Posted: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:21
A: Moretti Massimo; Pianezze Tiziana; Fiorenzo Martini, VRL; Domenico Colombo raffaele.cattaneo @ regione.lombardia.it
Cc: Commuter Casalpusterlengo; binariomorto; Casalpusterlengo Commuters Association, Roberto Vitali, drawing Eco di Bergamo; presadiretta; commuters Lombardy, Il Giornale di Bergamo, Giorgio Daho; federconsumatori@infinito.it, Ezio Locatelli; DNews (stem); Daniele Belotti, Corriere Lombardo, Claudio Antonelli, Cesare Zapperi; catani5@virgilio.it; Beppe Benigni; Assoutenti; antonella Sbernini; Reuters - Manfredi, Anna Gandolfi, Alessandro Borelli; ACU; marcellosaponaro.it; V Committee; fabiana.tinaglia; commuters Bergamaschi; regionali_in_treno@regione.lombardia.it; rapclientela.lom @ trenitalia.it; Ghilardi Adele
Subject: Lambrate disaster but also in Central, from protests to requests
Gent. ing. Martini, gent. dr. Cattaneo, the disaster of last night Lambrate involved says the Courier- della Sera-70 trains, or about 70 000 commuters. We have also been delays which have reached the 2 hours and 30 'in conditions of hardship and, often, of real physical suffering. We are tired of excuses to leave the time they find. Instead, we ask for a refund symbolic certainly not compensate the lost time of life but which, however, shows that Trenitalia is sincerely sorry for causing inconvenience to the above-mentioned "friendly customers" Therefore, we ask them for all railway lines affected by the disaster last night's shooting automatically on subscriptions bonus in December.
Sure you want to seriously consider this request, pro bono pacis Best regards
----------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------
Dante Goffetti Committee, commuters Bergamaschi
Tuesday, September 16, 2008
Colored Ultralight Wheelchair
Treviglio Station, where the fare is impossible
NEWS ECHO OF BERGAMO (14 / 08/2008)
Treviglio Train Station, where the fare is impossible
Dear editorial
last Thursday I was at the station in Treviglio, waiting for the R2111 (19:45 to Verona). A French lady asked me where to buy ticket ... e:
- bar closing time in the station (point of resale);
- two self-service broken or vandalized or broken ... yes, two on two;
- I do around the station, monitoring the ATM (needed to me) out ... inoperative;
- the main entrance step: since the time the ticket is closed, but remembered the existence of the electronic charge (for Trenomilano) that also provides metro tickets. I imagine that - being a new generation - provided other types of tickets (but not yet able to use it, I intend to make further tests) ... apart from making the coffee ... : Off ... broken ... faulty ???!!!;
- I look over ... station in the validator: fails.
I was told that there is a bar opposite the station, but did not know. I came back from the lady, apologizing that it was not possible to buy tickets ... I am focusing on the Treviglio
station ... second (I guess) in Bergamo for the number of passengers in our province, a place of intersection of three directions.
Treviglio, Treviglio station in the wilderness of Lombardy, it is impossible to make a business.
Sincerely. Adele
Ghilardi
Committee commuters Romano-Chiari-Rovato
http://pendolari-romano-chiari-rovato.blogspot.com
NEWS ECHO OF BERGAMO (14 / 08/2008)
Treviglio Train Station, where the fare is impossible
Dear editorial
last Thursday I was at the station in Treviglio, waiting for the R2111 (19:45 to Verona). A French lady asked me where to buy ticket ... e:
- bar closing time in the station (point of resale);
- two self-service broken or vandalized or broken ... yes, two on two;
- I do around the station, monitoring the ATM (needed to me) out ... inoperative;
- the main entrance step: since the time the ticket is closed, but remembered the existence of the electronic charge (for Trenomilano) that also provides metro tickets. I imagine that - being a new generation - provided other types of tickets (but not yet able to use it, I intend to make further tests) ... apart from making the coffee ... : Off ... broken ... faulty ???!!!;
- I look over ... station in the validator: fails.
I was told that there is a bar opposite the station, but did not know. I came back from the lady, apologizing that it was not possible to buy tickets ... I am focusing on the Treviglio
station ... second (I guess) in Bergamo for the number of passengers in our province, a place of intersection of three directions.
Treviglio, Treviglio station in the wilderness of Lombardy, it is impossible to make a business.
Sincerely. Adele
Ghilardi
Committee commuters Romano-Chiari-Rovato
http://pendolari-romano-chiari-rovato.blogspot.com
Tuesday, August 12, 2008
100 Lives Of Black Jack Savage
cuts in seven races, with fewer trains
ECHO NEWS OF BERGAMO, 11/08/2008
cuts in seven races, with fewer trains
Low Low Ten trains less and less on the Treviglio Milan-six between Milan and Brescia in the month of August, according to the tables Legambiente Lombardia. Trains that go on vacation for a month, school trips which are defined already been suspended at the end of the course and will return only the start of the school from September 8.
The deletions in August about a line as the Milan-Brescia-Venice, serving Lower Bergamo, certainly not classified as a regional and local level, but rather international. Among the two most important cities of Lombardy, Milan and Brescia, there are also links with Intercity and Eurostar trains that do not make intermediate stops on the route. This is a line that works even in August when the trains are the guests, including international traffic heading to the beaches of the North Adriatic or to the mountains of Trentino and Veneto.
Consider, for example, that for the Angelus the Pope in Bressanone special trains operate between Verona and Bressanone and back, to facilitate the flow of the faithful. But there are also many tourists day trips to the parks of Lake Garda in the art cities of Veneto.
certainly fall in August but increase commuters and holidaymakers and day trippers from the Lower and train in an hour you reach Peschiera del Garda. The railway line is like the A4 does not know that when off the traffic if we exclude the most important festivals.
And if the passenger station of the Roman Empire and Central Treviglio they perform well in August with former inter-regional trains that stop there and are always in circulation, the same can not be said for the other stops in Lower Bergamo as Vidalengo , Morecambe Bariano-and calcium. Ex stations turned into bus stops without the presence of operators of railways and not located in urban areas, a situation which further decreases the traveler, increasing those who reach Treviglio Romano or where there are more trains into service.
Even on the Treviglio-Cremona line which also serves as Caravaggio, Legambiente record seven trains in less than in August.
"We fully agree with those who say that is not true that everyone goes on vacation in August and then the Region and Trenitalia should take note of this development," says commuters Committee Rovato-Chiari-Treviglio.
"We then, in terms of time, we are still waiting for the revolution we were promised with the activation of quadrupling between Milan and Treviglio. The quadruple is already opened more than a year ago and we have not seen any improvement of the service, except put the train in the morning from Brescia to Milan. We travel on crowded trains, the route between Milan and Brescia receives more than 21 000 passengers a day, they told us last June would have changed schedules and travel times, but instead we are still waiting, we the tracks but there are no trains .
Carlo Cantù
ECHO NEWS OF BERGAMO, 11/08/2008
cuts in seven races, with fewer trains
Low Low Ten trains less and less on the Treviglio Milan-six between Milan and Brescia in the month of August, according to the tables Legambiente Lombardia. Trains that go on vacation for a month, school trips which are defined already been suspended at the end of the course and will return only the start of the school from September 8.
The deletions in August about a line as the Milan-Brescia-Venice, serving Lower Bergamo, certainly not classified as a regional and local level, but rather international. Among the two most important cities of Lombardy, Milan and Brescia, there are also links with Intercity and Eurostar trains that do not make intermediate stops on the route. This is a line that works even in August when the trains are the guests, including international traffic heading to the beaches of the North Adriatic or to the mountains of Trentino and Veneto.
Consider, for example, that for the Angelus the Pope in Bressanone special trains operate between Verona and Bressanone and back, to facilitate the flow of the faithful. But there are also many tourists day trips to the parks of Lake Garda in the art cities of Veneto.
certainly fall in August but increase commuters and holidaymakers and day trippers from the Lower and train in an hour you reach Peschiera del Garda. The railway line is like the A4 does not know that when off the traffic if we exclude the most important festivals.
And if the passenger station of the Roman Empire and Central Treviglio they perform well in August with former inter-regional trains that stop there and are always in circulation, the same can not be said for the other stops in Lower Bergamo as Vidalengo , Morecambe Bariano-and calcium. Ex stations turned into bus stops without the presence of operators of railways and not located in urban areas, a situation which further decreases the traveler, increasing those who reach Treviglio Romano or where there are more trains into service.
Even on the Treviglio-Cremona line which also serves as Caravaggio, Legambiente record seven trains in less than in August.
"We fully agree with those who say that is not true that everyone goes on vacation in August and then the Region and Trenitalia should take note of this development," says commuters Committee Rovato-Chiari-Treviglio.
"We then, in terms of time, we are still waiting for the revolution we were promised with the activation of quadrupling between Milan and Treviglio. The quadruple is already opened more than a year ago and we have not seen any improvement of the service, except put the train in the morning from Brescia to Milan. We travel on crowded trains, the route between Milan and Brescia receives more than 21 000 passengers a day, they told us last June would have changed schedules and travel times, but instead we are still waiting, we the tracks but there are no trains .
Carlo Cantù
Tuesday, May 20, 2008
Friday, May 16, 2008
Silent Reflux In 7 Month Old
The Roman Forum on-line closes?!
If commuting is not really a speech in the forum ... because it was more often romanoonline problems related to our trip ... it happens that last night you see this Written:
TOWN OF Romano di Lombardia, Bergamo Province
AFTER RECENT EVENTS AFFECTING THE SITE OF THE TOWN OF ROMAN L. DIA (WWW.ROMANOONLINE.IT), the Municipal Administration has noted the need 'REORGANIZE OF THIS SITE For backward compatibility 'CONTENT WITH THE AIMS' INSTITUTIONAL INFORMATION AND TIMES TO AVOID ANY ARBITRARY EXERCISE OF SEATS IN THE SERVICE OF NATIONAL INSTRUMENTS.
CIO 'THEREFORE, THE SECTION OF THE SITE DEDICATED TO THE FORUM IS SUSPENDED WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT.
add
heated and insults Romano, stop the forum
Dear users what do you think?
adele
Committee commuters Roman Rovato
If commuting is not really a speech in the forum ... because it was more often romanoonline problems related to our trip ... it happens that last night you see this Written:
TOWN OF Romano di Lombardia, Bergamo Province
AFTER RECENT EVENTS AFFECTING THE SITE OF THE TOWN OF ROMAN L. DIA (WWW.ROMANOONLINE.IT), the Municipal Administration has noted the need 'REORGANIZE OF THIS SITE For backward compatibility 'CONTENT WITH THE AIMS' INSTITUTIONAL INFORMATION AND TIMES TO AVOID ANY ARBITRARY EXERCISE OF SEATS IN THE SERVICE OF NATIONAL INSTRUMENTS.
CIO 'THEREFORE, THE SECTION OF THE SITE DEDICATED TO THE FORUM IS SUSPENDED WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT.
add
heated and insults Romano, stop the forum
Dear users what do you think?
adele
Committee commuters Roman Rovato
Wednesday, April 9, 2008
Food Poisoning Mylanta
worse Commuter Trains car
Corsera milano Mar, 08/04/2008, p..
Section 012: Lombardia, Editors: LOMBARDY
Train commuters drive worse
Brescia
by: Laura Guardini
LONDON - It 's a few weeks ago that the email' s Association InOrario - the commuter Brescia - have thinned. That things go better? that trains are clean and punctual? "WRONG! "meets all capital letters Paul Streit, a spokeswoman for those travelers. He adds:" I'm broke and I started to go to Milan by car, in spite of Moratti and his Congestion Charge. "Not is less exasperated replication Adele Ghilardi, the Committee Romano-Chiari-Rovato (we are still on the main 17, with over 20 000 subscribers): "I can hitch a ride? The 'alternative would be the camel ... We are forced to 'use' s car, congratulations to all. " While Trenitalia and RFI have repeatedly promised that in June, with the completion of the node of Treviglio, things will get better, it is equally true that countless reports of travelers cite a situation "that might not be worse, but it is always the same. And in the meantime is constantly increasing the number of commuters - says the spokesman InOrario. - Just look at the 6:52 train from Brescia, added this' years to the already existing breaks. " But the answer does not seem just right: "In reality, the places are reduced. In addition to the trains when the doors are broken and dirty, there's now even those with the carriages closed for lack of staff. "
Corsera milano Mar, 08/04/2008, p..
Section 012: Lombardia, Editors: LOMBARDY
Train commuters drive worse
Brescia
by: Laura Guardini
LONDON - It 's a few weeks ago that the email' s Association InOrario - the commuter Brescia - have thinned. That things go better? that trains are clean and punctual? "WRONG! "meets all capital letters Paul Streit, a spokeswoman for those travelers. He adds:" I'm broke and I started to go to Milan by car, in spite of Moratti and his Congestion Charge. "Not is less exasperated replication Adele Ghilardi, the Committee Romano-Chiari-Rovato (we are still on the main 17, with over 20 000 subscribers): "I can hitch a ride? The 'alternative would be the camel ... We are forced to 'use' s car, congratulations to all. " While Trenitalia and RFI have repeatedly promised that in June, with the completion of the node of Treviglio, things will get better, it is equally true that countless reports of travelers cite a situation "that might not be worse, but it is always the same. And in the meantime is constantly increasing the number of commuters - says the spokesman InOrario. - Just look at the 6:52 train from Brescia, added this' years to the already existing breaks. " But the answer does not seem just right: "In reality, the places are reduced. In addition to the trains when the doors are broken and dirty, there's now even those with the carriages closed for lack of staff. "
Saturday, March 29, 2008
Somach Ulcer Homework
Milan-Treviglio, agony commuter trains between Eurostar and strange decrepit
Adele Ghilardi *
an important date, July 2007, for us commuters to be issued on the quadrupling of the work of Milan-Treviglio. It was to be the turning point, the raise, The rethinking of a decent public transport, travel and finally ... but the revival was only in our heads. The first disappointment, after years of delays and obstacles (no run on the line added to the collapse) came with no dry: nothing at all until June 2008. How can it be that after years of delays the commitment to work four times over, the region is not ready with the times? We were able to obtain, with great difficulty, a race more, a fast train with the new times: already full! The rest of the fleet keeps the time 20 years ago (extended hours for work on the line, but followed with a work piece). Now we arrive on time, perhaps, but it is comforting to keep to the old schedule we stop at intermediate stations (5-10 minutes) can be reached in advance. We ask for at least touch on the timing of the most important races, shorten the gears?! But no, no ... still waiting for June 2008: nothing more, nothing else! After months
ask that meetings with the Region, a feeble response: "We meet with the institutional, then also contact the committee". In the meantime, something changes, but worse. The Interregional
were downgraded. What happens is that the crew is reduced. This reconfirms that the cut is always the minimum services, personnel working in difficult conditions and the commuter who has less and less safe and less protected: the security is optional. If a controller fails (one out of two half) are closed up 5 cars 11 ... mid-train! It means that in one month I saw (with my own eyes) close to cars on three occasions trains very important for turnout! I would say that June is no longer June, that is not true that the times are not ready but lack the means. At the end of the month threatened cancellation of a commuter train in four (25%). The bonus for excessive delays has been deleted. Just a little 'and suppress too. On the other hand on the line were added to the Eurostar six days with one stop in Padua: no Brescia, Verona, no, no, Vicenza, it would be nice to know who uses them, because they do not stop anywhere: other "vacuum switch" ... binaries, but we lack the means ... *
Committee commuters
Romano-Chiari-Rovato
29/03/2008,
source http://www.liberazione.it
Adele Ghilardi *
an important date, July 2007, for us commuters to be issued on the quadrupling of the work of Milan-Treviglio. It was to be the turning point, the raise, The rethinking of a decent public transport, travel and finally ... but the revival was only in our heads. The first disappointment, after years of delays and obstacles (no run on the line added to the collapse) came with no dry: nothing at all until June 2008. How can it be that after years of delays the commitment to work four times over, the region is not ready with the times? We were able to obtain, with great difficulty, a race more, a fast train with the new times: already full! The rest of the fleet keeps the time 20 years ago (extended hours for work on the line, but followed with a work piece). Now we arrive on time, perhaps, but it is comforting to keep to the old schedule we stop at intermediate stations (5-10 minutes) can be reached in advance. We ask for at least touch on the timing of the most important races, shorten the gears?! But no, no ... still waiting for June 2008: nothing more, nothing else! After months
ask that meetings with the Region, a feeble response: "We meet with the institutional, then also contact the committee". In the meantime, something changes, but worse. The Interregional
were downgraded. What happens is that the crew is reduced. This reconfirms that the cut is always the minimum services, personnel working in difficult conditions and the commuter who has less and less safe and less protected: the security is optional. If a controller fails (one out of two half) are closed up 5 cars 11 ... mid-train! It means that in one month I saw (with my own eyes) close to cars on three occasions trains very important for turnout! I would say that June is no longer June, that is not true that the times are not ready but lack the means. At the end of the month threatened cancellation of a commuter train in four (25%). The bonus for excessive delays has been deleted. Just a little 'and suppress too. On the other hand on the line were added to the Eurostar six days with one stop in Padua: no Brescia, Verona, no, no, Vicenza, it would be nice to know who uses them, because they do not stop anywhere: other "vacuum switch" ... binaries, but we lack the means ... *
Committee commuters
Romano-Chiari-Rovato
29/03/2008,
source http://www.liberazione.it
Thursday, March 13, 2008
Pokemon Emerald How To Get Shiny Rayquaza
On that train like sardines:
Thursday, March 13, 2008 p. province. Brescia 19-Today -
the complaint. The Committee of commuters
" On that train like sardines: carriages closed '
There are growing complaints of poor service on trains by Chiari in Milan by the commuters. Tuesday morning on the train running from 2092 to Verona Brescia and stops at 7.53 to 8.54 and Chiari, were noted 5 cars locked. To keep them closed, causing overcrowding in the remaining six, there was a technical problem but the lack of a controller. The discovery was made by a commuter who, with a subscription first-class could not find a seat, sought an explanation from the controller because the six empty wagons were closed. The Board of
COMMUTERS Romano-Chiari-Rovato , has reconstructed the story thus: "The corridors were full, the first and second classes overcrowded, many passengers were standing. The controller which we have sought an explanation he said that the law keeps them closed because they can not deal with more than six carriages. " Protests from the reconstruction of Adele Ghilardi, the Committee commuters, and Trevor continued, "some cab was open and people are drained by corridors and entrances at first but many people remained sitting, with other tickets." The committee that similar incidents had already pointed out on March 4 and February 19, both on the train to Milan, and is in the evening running from Milan at 19.15, protested saying that those who had paid the subscription for the first class , hoping to find a seat, he felt doubly mocked. "In these cases - are asking commuters - this downgrading of the first class entitles you to reimbursement?".
Other testimonies of commuters, "On the regional 2710, which I take from Romano - says a Bergamo - I met with the controller only in Milan Center, 50 kilometers after it got on the train: I did not have time to report the deficiencies, not least because Lambrate already had fallen la metà dei passeggeri. C’erano due controllori per 11 vetture e mille passeggeri sul convoglio. Ma dopotutto siamo solo PENDOLARI!».
«Ci hanno fermato in stazione a Treviglio per 20 minuti - denunciano alcuni passeggeri del regionale 633 - ma non abbiamo ricevuto nessuna comunicazione. Un capotreno diceva che dovevano dare la precedenza ad un altro convoglio, senza specificare quale fosse».
Il comitato che ha adottato come slogan «abbiamo i binari ma mancano i mezzi» chiede un incontro urgente, concludendo «siamo disponibili...treni permettendo! ».G.C.C. 
Thursday, March 13, 2008 p. province. Brescia 19-Today -
the complaint. The Committee of commuters
" On that train like sardines: carriages closed '
There are growing complaints of poor service on trains by Chiari in Milan by the commuters. Tuesday morning on the train running from 2092 to Verona Brescia and stops at 7.53 to 8.54 and Chiari, were noted 5 cars locked. To keep them closed, causing overcrowding in the remaining six, there was a technical problem but the lack of a controller. The discovery was made by a commuter who, with a subscription first-class could not find a seat, sought an explanation from the controller because the six empty wagons were closed. The Board of
COMMUTERS Romano-Chiari-Rovato , has reconstructed the story thus: "The corridors were full, the first and second classes overcrowded, many passengers were standing. The controller which we have sought an explanation he said that the law keeps them closed because they can not deal with more than six carriages. " Protests from the reconstruction of Adele Ghilardi, the Committee commuters, and Trevor continued, "some cab was open and people are drained by corridors and entrances at first but many people remained sitting, with other tickets." The committee that similar incidents had already pointed out on March 4 and February 19, both on the train to Milan, and is in the evening running from Milan at 19.15, protested saying that those who had paid the subscription for the first class , hoping to find a seat, he felt doubly mocked. "In these cases - are asking commuters - this downgrading of the first class entitles you to reimbursement?".
Other testimonies of commuters, "On the regional 2710, which I take from Romano - says a Bergamo - I met with the controller only in Milan Center, 50 kilometers after it got on the train: I did not have time to report the deficiencies, not least because Lambrate already had fallen la metà dei passeggeri. C’erano due controllori per 11 vetture e mille passeggeri sul convoglio. Ma dopotutto siamo solo PENDOLARI!».
«Ci hanno fermato in stazione a Treviglio per 20 minuti - denunciano alcuni passeggeri del regionale 633 - ma non abbiamo ricevuto nessuna comunicazione. Un capotreno diceva che dovevano dare la precedenza ad un altro convoglio, senza specificare quale fosse».
Il comitato che ha adottato come slogan «abbiamo i binari ma mancano i mezzi» chiede un incontro urgente, concludendo «siamo disponibili...treni permettendo! ».G.C.C.
Thursday, February 7, 2008
Sanderson Buggy Plans
carriages closed the investigation. Legambiente volunteers for a week at stations in the capital
L’INDAGINE. I volontari Legambiente for a week at stations in the capital
(from Bresciaoggi, Wednesday, February 6, 2008 Chronicle p. 15).
From Brescia to Milan in a late train on two
Natalia Danesi
Trains dirty and late. Time passes, but the problems of the commuters are not resolved. To put in black and white map of discomfort this time is Legambiente, who last week has been monitoring the situation of rail transport in the Peninsula campaign under the commuters. And the picture that emerges is not comforting. In our region, 39 percent of commuter trains arriving in Milan late, beyond the appointed hour. In the various stations of the capital, the volunteers have occurred that monitored on 444 trains, 173 wore a delay time between 5 minutes and a half. TRAINS FROM BRESCIA
arriving more than 5 minutes after the scheduled time are less than 13 out of 26, one to 2, with peak delay of 36 minutes. According to Legambiente, are 25 000 daily commuters who flock to the trains of Lombardy. The problems are mainly related to the "lack of maintenance on the rail network and trains that have an average age of 28 years and thousands of miles of travel on the shoulders. In recent years the railways have lost a big chunk of its members for failing to respond adequately to the demand for rail transport, "
" Dirt, delays, inconveniences are always the same - said Luigi Barbieri of the In Time -. We requested a meeting to talk about our problems, but we were not heard. "
on a war footing even ADELE Ghilardi, the Committee commuters Romano - Chiari - Rovato. "Last year was completed after waiting twenty years to quadruple the line Milan - Treviglio - explains -. On this occasion, we managed to get a new race that starts just before 7 from Brescia and is the fastest. " On the other hand, however, he continues, were added during peak hours 6 new races Eurostar Italy, three Milan - Venice and many Venice - Milan. Too bad that, he adds, just stop in Padua and Brescia, Verona and Vicenza. A real "waste", according to commuters.
"We thought that after the quadrupling it could shorten travel times. But we were told that in order to adapt the programming of races we have to wait until June. For our part, since we are already in February, asking to be heard and to have a meeting soon. We should plan to have the schedules a few days before it comes into force.
L’INDAGINE. I volontari Legambiente for a week at stations in the capital
(from Bresciaoggi, Wednesday, February 6, 2008 Chronicle p. 15).
From Brescia to Milan in a late train on two
Natalia Danesi
Trains dirty and late. Time passes, but the problems of the commuters are not resolved. To put in black and white map of discomfort this time is Legambiente, who last week has been monitoring the situation of rail transport in the Peninsula campaign under the commuters. And the picture that emerges is not comforting. In our region, 39 percent of commuter trains arriving in Milan late, beyond the appointed hour. In the various stations of the capital, the volunteers have occurred that monitored on 444 trains, 173 wore a delay time between 5 minutes and a half. TRAINS FROM BRESCIA
arriving more than 5 minutes after the scheduled time are less than 13 out of 26, one to 2, with peak delay of 36 minutes. According to Legambiente, are 25 000 daily commuters who flock to the trains of Lombardy. The problems are mainly related to the "lack of maintenance on the rail network and trains that have an average age of 28 years and thousands of miles of travel on the shoulders. In recent years the railways have lost a big chunk of its members for failing to respond adequately to the demand for rail transport, "
" Dirt, delays, inconveniences are always the same - said Luigi Barbieri of the In Time -. We requested a meeting to talk about our problems, but we were not heard. "
on a war footing even ADELE Ghilardi, the Committee commuters Romano - Chiari - Rovato. "Last year was completed after waiting twenty years to quadruple the line Milan - Treviglio - explains -. On this occasion, we managed to get a new race that starts just before 7 from Brescia and is the fastest. " On the other hand, however, he continues, were added during peak hours 6 new races Eurostar Italy, three Milan - Venice and many Venice - Milan. Too bad that, he adds, just stop in Padua and Brescia, Verona and Vicenza. A real "waste", according to commuters.
"We thought that after the quadrupling it could shorten travel times. But we were told that in order to adapt the programming of races we have to wait until June. For our part, since we are already in February, asking to be heard and to have a meeting soon. We should plan to have the schedules a few days before it comes into force.
Saturday, January 19, 2008
Share Tips From The Sun News Paper
Interview with President FS
The admission of the president Innocenzo Cipolletta. Intesa alongside competitors
Railway: new price rises, but
to cover the holes. 'Services will not improve "
" The increases are unfortunately offset the deficit and to pay interest on banks'
ROME - The increases in rail tickets "will continue" in the future. But the quality of service on trains operated by the Italian State Railways hardly be better. The price rises to president of the company's own admission, Innocent Cipolletta, "unfortunately they are not for the improvement of services, but to compensate for the deficit is to pay interest to banks is to plug the holes in the past."
BIG PROBLEMS - Speaking at the recording of an episode of the TV show "Economix" Rai Educational, the President gave an overview of Fs certainly not exciting, "Delays? Are comparable to those of other European countries - he said - but the overall transport system that has problems in Italy. There are 60 million people and the country is congested. Very little has been invested in railways in recent years, there are the same tracks after the war, while it is multiplied by the number of trains and this causes delays. "
COMMUTERS AND LONG DISTANCE - Cipolletta has also clarified that the Railways will not invest on long-distance trains: "They are of old design and the passengers are shrinking. Our policy is to encourage passengers to preferire l'alternativa di collegamenti aerei low cost». Meglio invece puntare sulle tratte di media lunghezza, dai 200 ai 400 chilometri, e sui treni per i pendolari: mille nuovi treni saranno acquistati, anche perché c'è «una quantità di materiale vecchio eccessivo e quindi non ci sono treni per offrire servizi decenti alla gente. Il presidente Prodi ha trovato entusiasmante questo punto e lo ha approvato. Capisco che ci sono difficoltà di finanza pubblica ma credo che ci darà la possibilità di comprarli».
CONCORRENZA - Nel frattempo, la concorrenza si mobilita. La Ntv - Nuovo Trasporto Viaggiatori - che fa capo a Luca Cordero di Montezemolo e Diego Della Valle ha ufficializzato l'acquisto da Alstom of 25 high-speed trains next generation, the AGV. The contract has a value of 650 million euro. The construction of high-speed network will end in 2009 and by 2010 there will be a thousand kilometers of the network on which trains will travel at a speed of 300 kmh. This will take the Rome-Milan in 3 hours and 10 minutes. NTV is particularly interested in this type of connections.
AGREEMENT NTV - The first Italian private operator in passenger rail transport has also confirmed it had reached an agreement with Intesa Sanpaolo, the bank will enter the capital of NTV with a market share of 20%, for a total investment of 60 million euro. With the addition institute in the capital of NTV Luca Cordero di Montezemolo, Diego Della Valle and Gianni Punzo have 25.3% each, 20%, as mentioned, will be attributable to Intesa Sanpaolo, 4% will instead Giuseppe Sciarrone.
January 17, 2008
The admission of the president Innocenzo Cipolletta. Intesa alongside competitors
Railway: new price rises, but
to cover the holes. 'Services will not improve "
" The increases are unfortunately offset the deficit and to pay interest on banks'
ROME - The increases in rail tickets "will continue" in the future. But the quality of service on trains operated by the Italian State Railways hardly be better. The price rises to president of the company's own admission, Innocent Cipolletta, "unfortunately they are not for the improvement of services, but to compensate for the deficit is to pay interest to banks is to plug the holes in the past."
BIG PROBLEMS - Speaking at the recording of an episode of the TV show "Economix" Rai Educational, the President gave an overview of Fs certainly not exciting, "Delays? Are comparable to those of other European countries - he said - but the overall transport system that has problems in Italy. There are 60 million people and the country is congested. Very little has been invested in railways in recent years, there are the same tracks after the war, while it is multiplied by the number of trains and this causes delays. "
COMMUTERS AND LONG DISTANCE - Cipolletta has also clarified that the Railways will not invest on long-distance trains: "They are of old design and the passengers are shrinking. Our policy is to encourage passengers to preferire l'alternativa di collegamenti aerei low cost». Meglio invece puntare sulle tratte di media lunghezza, dai 200 ai 400 chilometri, e sui treni per i pendolari: mille nuovi treni saranno acquistati, anche perché c'è «una quantità di materiale vecchio eccessivo e quindi non ci sono treni per offrire servizi decenti alla gente. Il presidente Prodi ha trovato entusiasmante questo punto e lo ha approvato. Capisco che ci sono difficoltà di finanza pubblica ma credo che ci darà la possibilità di comprarli».
CONCORRENZA - Nel frattempo, la concorrenza si mobilita. La Ntv - Nuovo Trasporto Viaggiatori - che fa capo a Luca Cordero di Montezemolo e Diego Della Valle ha ufficializzato l'acquisto da Alstom of 25 high-speed trains next generation, the AGV. The contract has a value of 650 million euro. The construction of high-speed network will end in 2009 and by 2010 there will be a thousand kilometers of the network on which trains will travel at a speed of 300 kmh. This will take the Rome-Milan in 3 hours and 10 minutes. NTV is particularly interested in this type of connections.
AGREEMENT NTV - The first Italian private operator in passenger rail transport has also confirmed it had reached an agreement with Intesa Sanpaolo, the bank will enter the capital of NTV with a market share of 20%, for a total investment of 60 million euro. With the addition institute in the capital of NTV Luca Cordero di Montezemolo, Diego Della Valle and Gianni Punzo have 25.3% each, 20%, as mentioned, will be attributable to Intesa Sanpaolo, 4% will instead Giuseppe Sciarrone.
January 17, 2008
Friday, January 4, 2008
Good Faith Estimate Cover Letter
commute: the reality exceeds fiction
commute: the reality exceeds fiction
(12/29/2007, L'Eco di Bergamo)
Some time ago on the small screen had peeped out a daily strip that tells the existential adventures of a group of commuters. After a few episodes is finished in the tray, the script was probably deboluccio, certainly if authors had done a ride on commuter trains from Bergamo exit would be a super prize for fiction.
few grains of recent weeks, collected by e-mail received in the newsroom: the new "Vivalto (bullet train comfort) that, in addition to accumulate 20 minutes late on the 40 from Milan to Rome, traveling without heating in 1st class with the occupants to bring blankets and mulled wine. But trains out of the blue closed for technical reasons the race in Central Lambrate instead (thereby transhumance underground), compositions of the commuter trains that call "pre-war" with a "lights are both failures, so I know that the train is almost always straight, but if I travel on the highway (Straight too) without the lights on, I withdraw the license, "wrote a commuter-side Seriate Palazzolo. Then there are the jabs in Trenitalia to curare, or rather to "them", those "who decide to lengthen journey times without warning, who decide whether to cut your train of 25 percent, to make you travel by foot, cold , late. " But above all, "they who have the courage to say that customers want a service at the price of a Polish and German that we would pay for German as a service offering one of the third world ...». Like saying that before we talk about increases need to pass on the dead bodies of commuters. By the way, easy to find them standing, "because I did 12 years Scout, I slept in the mud and hard to shock me, but today I got sick and sat on the coach, "he writes of a commuter Bariano. To which a colleague asks Trenitalia furious "not to submit my report, even remove even the PC, handhelds and mobile phones to the leaders of the offices (in) competent. Maybe so stop fooling the Internet, you get up and maybe they will do their duty. " More: "Better yet, instead of submitting my report, submitted a complete set of buckets, mops, air fresheners and everything you need to clean the trains."
And maybe we will run away if any coach in addition, it would not hurt, because most of the recommendations in December riguardavano convogli a 6 vagoni invece che 8: «Avete presente le foto dei treni in India con gente aggrappata ai tetti dei vagoni? Beh, poco ci mancava...». Se poi ci aggiungiamo che «riscaldamento e luce si sono guastati da Seriate a Grumello, sì, al freddo e al geloooooo (influenze natalizie - n.d.r.) fino a Grumello». A proposito, sorvolando sui ritardi (che alla fine non sembrano poi la questione che fa più infuriare i pendolari) ci sarebbero «porte guaste per settimane, tutti i pulsanti guasti, annunci sbagliati, treni dati in ritardo che viaggiano puntualissimi». Per farla breve «le solite cose, insomma», domande che aspettano ancora risposte: «Sarei grata di un suo cortese cenno di riscontro per Information insane yesterday morning and last night's total disinformation. " Gentlemen, coach, you aside. Maybe. Nik
commute: the reality exceeds fiction
(12/29/2007, L'Eco di Bergamo)
Some time ago on the small screen had peeped out a daily strip that tells the existential adventures of a group of commuters. After a few episodes is finished in the tray, the script was probably deboluccio, certainly if authors had done a ride on commuter trains from Bergamo exit would be a super prize for fiction.
few grains of recent weeks, collected by e-mail received in the newsroom: the new "Vivalto (bullet train comfort) that, in addition to accumulate 20 minutes late on the 40 from Milan to Rome, traveling without heating in 1st class with the occupants to bring blankets and mulled wine. But trains out of the blue closed for technical reasons the race in Central Lambrate instead (thereby transhumance underground), compositions of the commuter trains that call "pre-war" with a "lights are both failures, so I know that the train is almost always straight, but if I travel on the highway (Straight too) without the lights on, I withdraw the license, "wrote a commuter-side Seriate Palazzolo. Then there are the jabs in Trenitalia to curare, or rather to "them", those "who decide to lengthen journey times without warning, who decide whether to cut your train of 25 percent, to make you travel by foot, cold , late. " But above all, "they who have the courage to say that customers want a service at the price of a Polish and German that we would pay for German as a service offering one of the third world ...». Like saying that before we talk about increases need to pass on the dead bodies of commuters. By the way, easy to find them standing, "because I did 12 years Scout, I slept in the mud and hard to shock me, but today I got sick and sat on the coach, "he writes of a commuter Bariano. To which a colleague asks Trenitalia furious "not to submit my report, even remove even the PC, handhelds and mobile phones to the leaders of the offices (in) competent. Maybe so stop fooling the Internet, you get up and maybe they will do their duty. " More: "Better yet, instead of submitting my report, submitted a complete set of buckets, mops, air fresheners and everything you need to clean the trains."
And maybe we will run away if any coach in addition, it would not hurt, because most of the recommendations in December riguardavano convogli a 6 vagoni invece che 8: «Avete presente le foto dei treni in India con gente aggrappata ai tetti dei vagoni? Beh, poco ci mancava...». Se poi ci aggiungiamo che «riscaldamento e luce si sono guastati da Seriate a Grumello, sì, al freddo e al geloooooo (influenze natalizie - n.d.r.) fino a Grumello». A proposito, sorvolando sui ritardi (che alla fine non sembrano poi la questione che fa più infuriare i pendolari) ci sarebbero «porte guaste per settimane, tutti i pulsanti guasti, annunci sbagliati, treni dati in ritardo che viaggiano puntualissimi». Per farla breve «le solite cose, insomma», domande che aspettano ancora risposte: «Sarei grata di un suo cortese cenno di riscontro per Information insane yesterday morning and last night's total disinformation. " Gentlemen, coach, you aside. Maybe. Nik
Thursday, January 3, 2008
Difference Between Icy Rock And Cydia
commuters: more a hardship
A LIFE ON THE TRAIN. The regional committees met in Romano di Lombardia to talk about schedules, costs and cleaning non-existent on convoys
commuters: discomfort in most
(Brescia Today, 31/12/2007,)
Commuters users of trains connecting Milan to Brescia, Bergamo and Brescia, but also those using the route between Brescia and Cremona and Brescia-Bergamo-Lecco are struggling to meet to voice their distress. They choose the Internet to meet, and some raro incontro pubblico; come quello organizzato a ROMANO di Lombardia dai comitati contro la «Brebemi» e l’alta capacità ferroviaria.
Una occasione della quale hanno approfittato per chiedere al parlamentare di Rifondazione Ezio Locatelli di portare le loro istanze in Parlamento, perchè la richiesta di treni puliti e in orario e con un orario adeguato alle necessità «non ha un colore politico, ma è una richiesta di civiltà», ha spiegato un lavoratore della Scala; «tutti invitano a prendere il treno, e poi non ci sono convogli con orari decenti fuori dalla cintura di Milano».
Per ottenere un servizio decente, i comitati Morengo-Bariano, ROMANO-Chiari-Rovato e l’associazione «Brescia in orario» hanno chiesto il 22 ottobre un incontro ai responsabili delle ferrovie: «Abbiamo ricevuto risposta il 22 novembre - ha ricordato Adele Ghirardi -; sembra che stiano programmando un calendario di incontri, ma purtroppo diverse richieste avevano motivo di essere discusse prima del cambio di orario del 10 dicembre, ora non più».
Nell’elenco di richieste spiccano quella di convogli con una composizione non «ballerina» delle vetture di prima classe, che provoca difficoltà di risalita per i passeggeri, quella di carrozze adeguate e una diversa qualità del servizio a Milano: il ripristino di corse tra la stazione centrale e gli altri scali milanesi, ma anche «un maggior controllo sui treni: in seconda classe non viene quasi mai effettuata la pulizia».
Ad accentuare il disagio, poi, c’è la novità dei parcheggi a pagamento a Chiari. «Per i pendolari di Chiari, Palazzolo, Adro, Cologne e della Bassa - ha ricordato ancora la Ghirardi - è un salasso: il parcheggio costa 45 euro al mese per i pendolari, 80 per gli altri, e molti hano cambiato stazione scegliendo ROMANO o Rovato, che hanno aree di sosta meno care, creando problemi dove non c’erano». [\FIRMA] 
A LIFE ON THE TRAIN. The regional committees met in Romano di Lombardia to talk about schedules, costs and cleaning non-existent on convoys
commuters: discomfort in most
(Brescia Today, 31/12/2007,)
Commuters users of trains connecting Milan to Brescia, Bergamo and Brescia, but also those using the route between Brescia and Cremona and Brescia-Bergamo-Lecco are struggling to meet to voice their distress. They choose the Internet to meet, and some raro incontro pubblico; come quello organizzato a ROMANO di Lombardia dai comitati contro la «Brebemi» e l’alta capacità ferroviaria.
Una occasione della quale hanno approfittato per chiedere al parlamentare di Rifondazione Ezio Locatelli di portare le loro istanze in Parlamento, perchè la richiesta di treni puliti e in orario e con un orario adeguato alle necessità «non ha un colore politico, ma è una richiesta di civiltà», ha spiegato un lavoratore della Scala; «tutti invitano a prendere il treno, e poi non ci sono convogli con orari decenti fuori dalla cintura di Milano».
Per ottenere un servizio decente, i comitati Morengo-Bariano, ROMANO-Chiari-Rovato e l’associazione «Brescia in orario» hanno chiesto il 22 ottobre un incontro ai responsabili delle ferrovie: «Abbiamo ricevuto risposta il 22 novembre - ha ricordato Adele Ghirardi -; sembra che stiano programmando un calendario di incontri, ma purtroppo diverse richieste avevano motivo di essere discusse prima del cambio di orario del 10 dicembre, ora non più».
Nell’elenco di richieste spiccano quella di convogli con una composizione non «ballerina» delle vetture di prima classe, che provoca difficoltà di risalita per i passeggeri, quella di carrozze adeguate e una diversa qualità del servizio a Milano: il ripristino di corse tra la stazione centrale e gli altri scali milanesi, ma anche «un maggior controllo sui treni: in seconda classe non viene quasi mai effettuata la pulizia».
Ad accentuare il disagio, poi, c’è la novità dei parcheggi a pagamento a Chiari. «Per i pendolari di Chiari, Palazzolo, Adro, Cologne e della Bassa - ha ricordato ancora la Ghirardi - è un salasso: il parcheggio costa 45 euro al mese per i pendolari, 80 per gli altri, e molti hano cambiato stazione scegliendo ROMANO o Rovato, che hanno aree di sosta meno care, creando problemi dove non c’erano». [\FIRMA]
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